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I watched it. He tok the guy lightly. He was taunting him, fighting with his hands down, mocking him, joking in the ring, taunting the crowd, etc. Silva got clocked & went to sleep standing up.
Wow. Didn't see this coming. I haven't watched MMA in months but I never thought Silva would get knocked out. Serves him right for taking his opponent lightly.
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Silva's my favorite fighter, but facts, they be facts: he fought like an idiot and deserved to lose. I still maintain that if he would have taken the fight seriously there's no chance in hell that Weidman would have beaten him. But hey, it is what it is; congrats to the guy for doing something that no-one else has been able to do in UFC
I still maintain that if he would have taken the fight seriously there's no chance in hell that Weidman would have beaten him. But hey, it is what it is; congrats to the guy for doing something that no-one else has been able to do in UFC
That's pretty muc the general consensus, it's not that Weidman won it's that Silva lost. I'm pretty sure in a rematch he'd slaughter him but we haven't seen Anderson fight like he did against Franklin, he looks like he's done with MMA.
I still maintain that if he would have taken the fight seriously there's no chance in hell that Weidman would have beaten him. But hey, it is what it is; congrats to the guy for doing something that no-one else has been able to do in UFC
That's pretty muc the general consensus, it's not that Weidman won it's that Silva lost. I'm pretty sure in a rematch he'd slaughter him but we haven't seen Anderson fight like he did against Franklin, he looks like he's done with MMA.
Yeah, Silva said he'll continue to fight, but he doesn't want to be in the title picture any more. Burnout? Perhaps. Maybe he's just sick of the pressure of being champion (almost 7 years as champion will do that to a guy I guess).
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Anderson Silva had success whilst showboating in the octagon etc and the more he had success whilst doing it, the more he did it... it was kind of a vicious circle that ended with him getting caught
Weidman is just too good to do that taunting with. Silva was stupid and paid for it.
He'll take the rematch, even if he says he doesn't want it. There should be huge money in it for him and he's not a young fighter anymore.
Just finished watching the event. Was quite entertaining. Silva totally deserved to lose. You can only fuck about in the octagon so much before someone knocks you out.
The fact that Chris Weidman is getting zero props for knocking out the GOAT is beyond disrespectful. Everyone is saying that if Silva shows up ready to fight it's a given that is wins the rematch. Not so fast. Silva has fought former champions across two different weight classes for the last 7 years with this exact style of fighting and no one has really questioned it because it has been so thoroughly dominating. No one ever questioned whether or not he came to fight. Now that he's finally lost, everyone is coming out of the woodwork with reasons and excuses for his loss. "Oh he threw the fight" or "Oh if he wasn't messing around he would have won". Bullshit. Anderson Silva is the GOAT for many reasons and his style of trying to lure guys into making a mistake and finishing them is part of that style. It would be one thing if he lost by razor close decision but it was a decisive KO. It wasn't a fire fight where they were both throwing punches and Silva got caught. Weidman wasn't playing into his game and it was the first time that happened. We all saw the result. Let's not forget that Weidman is a nightmare matchup for Silva. He's a great wrestler with high level jits and above average striking that keeps getting better. Also, Weidman hadn't fought for a full year prior to this fight due to shoulder surgery. Now let's think about this. If Weidman comes in 100% healthy with no ring rust from being injured and Silva comes in "ready to fight" I think we still see the same result. Probably not the same finish but Weidman will win again. The fact is Silva got beat at his own game plain and simple. Give the champ so damn respect.
Nothing but respect for the new champ, absolutely. He wasn't going to play the Silva game and landed a big shot at just the right time. It looked like Silva did his fake sell too, right before taking the KO shot. What a fool.
Thing is, he provided and opening for Weidman. Props to Weidman for capitalising, but next time SIlva won't give him the window. I'm not saying Silva will necessarily win the rematch, but he's not going to be so stupid the second time. And let's face it, he's still as good as anyone.
Nothing but respect for the new champ, absolutely. He wasn't going to play the Silva game and landed a big shot at just the right time. It looked like Silva did his fake sell too, right before taking the KO shot. What a fool.
Thing is, he provided and opening for Weidman. Props to Weidman for capitalising, but next time SIlva won't give him the window. I'm not saying Silva will necessarily win the rematch, but he's not going to be so stupid the second time. And let's face it, he's still as good as anyone.
I agree. Anderson Silva is the greatest fighter of all time but Weidman is just the worst matchup for him. Not saying he can't beat Weidman because he can, it's just going to be harder than most.
I don't understand Dana White sometimes... he has a boner for silva, but knows that only grapplers give him trouble... so he only sets up matches vs grapplers. now that silva is NOT champ, he can choose his next opponent... it will NOT be a grappler, and it'll be a walk in the park for the spider.
There haven't been any strikers that have made it to the top of the Middleweight division. Vitor Belfort got there and he ate Silva's foot in about 3 minutes. Other than that Michael Bisping has had like 4 shots at becoming #1 contender but he always chokes. Look at the Top 10 Middleweights in the UFC and 3 of the top 5 are classic strikers:
Champ Weidman - Wrestler/Grappler
#1 Silva - Striker
#2 Belfort - Striker
#3 Okami - Wrestler
#4 Bisping - Striker
#5 Jacare - Grappler
#6 Munoz - Wrestler
#7 Philippou - Boxer
#8 Rockhold - Wrestler
#9 Sonnen - Wrestler
#10 Boetsch - Wrestler
That said, Bisping can't win the contenders fights to get a shot and Vitor will have to wait because Silva agreed to the rematch last night. It's going down on Super Bowl Sunday in February in Weidman's back yard of New Jersey. Dana tried to get it on the year end show on 12/28/13 but he couldn't make it happen that early. It's going to be the biggest fight and biggest money fight that Silva will have available so there is no reason for him not to take it.
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Silva has apparently changed his mind and wants a rematch. Wonder if he won't fuck about next time. If he doesn't then it'll be a great fight. Weidman showed what he's made off and so it's going to be a war if both take it seriously. I'd want Weidman to maintain though, that'd make him being Silva a bigger thing than it already is.
I'd want Weidman to maintain though, that'd make him being Silva a bigger thing than it already is.
This is where I am torn. I really like Chris Weidman and it's high time that we see a new regime at 185lbs. Then again Anderson Silva is Anderson Silva. Always entertaining to watch. Dominating when he wants to be and if he wins the rematch, he can easily move right back into a superfight with Jon Jones. I am looking forward to it no matter what. The build for this rematch will be insane!!
I see it as some of Silva's best matches have been non-title ones. If he loses the rematch you can put him in entertaining matches with guys in a heavier weight class. Everyone knows that he can take guys bigger than him, and it's always fun to see.
Yeah he could be in the Rich Franklin position if he loses. If he loses the title then the rematch, he isn't getting another shot any time soon. Then he would either have to take super fights within the division like Vitor again. Cung Le would be a very intertaining fight. He could move up to 205 and fight Shogun or any other big fights.
Exactly. This is a guy that doesn't need the title at all. There are some massive fights out there for someone of his ability. And I'd rather see them than more title fights that he'll win.
I agree. At this point, the only two fights that required him to hold the belt were against GSP and Jones. GSP doesn't want any part of that fight and Silva knows Jones would destroy him. So after some thought, I hope he loses the rematch.
Wow what a complete moron. Top UFC guy or not, I'm glad he got knocked out and looks like a jackass in the process.
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Nice, a real serious rematch for spider vs weidman. I hope weidman dominates him for 4 rounds & then puts him to sleep, so he can move past all this 'spider beat spider' crap. weidman is a monster... he's what I thought Bader was gonna be, but 10 lbs lighter.
Nice, a real serious rematch for spider vs weidman. I hope weidman dominates him for 4 rounds & then puts him to sleep, so he can move past all this 'spider beat spider' crap. weidman is a monster... he's what I thought Bader was gonna be, but 10 lbs lighter.
Bader blows. He got exposed by Jon Jones and anytime he's fought a top 5 guy since, he got smoked. Lyoto Machida knocked him out badly. He will be a gatekeeper for life.
I agree. Bader LOOKED like a monster until he faced the top 10 guys.
The bad thing is he has the tools to be really good. Great wrestling pedigree and knockout power. Chuck Liddell used that combo to vicious success for years using his wrestling skills in reverse to keep the fight standing so he could use his hand speed, accuracy and power to knock fools out. The problem with Bader and a lot of other wrestlers is that they knock a couple of nobodies out and they think they are a knockout artist. Bader's problems lie in that, while he does have KO power, he is slow and plodding on the feet. He has no head movement, poor footwork, and two decent punches: the jab and overhand right. He's too muscular and that hurts his movement and speed. Plus, he seems content to stay at this level. He hasn't greatly improved his striking ability, offensively or defensively. If something doesn't change he will be stuck at a guy sitting at the high end of the top 10 forever.
I'm not a big fan of MMA anymore but when I found out my favourite fighter and the bets ever got knocked out by some guy I've never heard of I was shocked and in awe, I was certain he would retire from the UFC undeafted.