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These are the problems that come about when they are travelling each week instead of being static in the same place I guess..

Hopefully the cuts they make will help a little, but what they really need to look at surely is the ex-WWE guys who they do nothing with and are getting big guarantees etc

I cant comment too much as I havnt watched TNA in about a year...  I still say I much preferred TNA before Spike haha

These are the problems that come about when they are travelling each week instead of being static in the same place I guess..

Hopefully the cuts they make will help a little, but what they really need to look at surely is the ex-WWE guys who they do nothing with and are getting big guarantees etc

I cant comment too much as I havnt watched TNA in about a year...  I still say I much preferred TNA before Spike haha

Who exactly are these ex WWE guys they do nothing with?

These are the problems that come about when they are travelling each week instead of being static in the same place I guess..

Hopefully the cuts they make will help a little, but what they really need to look at surely is the ex-WWE guys who they do nothing with and are getting big guarantees etc

I cant comment too much as I havnt watched TNA in about a year...  I still say I much preferred TNA before Spike haha

Who exactly are these ex WWE guys they do nothing with?

There's very few ex-WWE employees on the roster at this point, and the ones they DO have are generally used fairly often. Mike Knox and Luke Gallows? They're not used much, but in reality, who cares? Does anyone really WANT to see them eat up too much time? They're being used pretty much perfectly as Aces & Eights cannon fodder. The only other guy who I can think of who is eating up the resources for no reason is Matt Morgan; so much potential physically, but he's never lived up to 1/1000th of it after all these years, and it's doubtful that he ever will.

Matt Morgan can barely be considered a WWE guy. He's a TNA guy through and through, he's been there so long, and has made a name for himself in that company! People like Kurt Angle, Bully Ray, and Mr Anderson, they are TNA guys at this point in their career.

Angle and Ray will always be considered WWE guys. They made their names there and are both considered to be important parts of their history. Ray helped make TLC matches what they are with the Hardys, and Angle had so many great matches and feuds. They will always be classed as and remembered as ex-WWE guys more so than being a TNA guy.

Mr Anderson I'll give you.

No way. Bully Ray and Kurt Angle were already hall of famers before TNA. They are WWE men.

I 100% agree and that's when I was watching WWE/F 24/7. Angle and The Dudelys are WWE for sure. I'd say Bully Ray is more WWF and ECW before I said TNA

Maybe Kurt Angle is more of a WWE guy. But Bully Ray is a TNA guy through and through. He's made a name for himself in TNA as a singles competitor and won his first World Championship in TNA. He's been in TNA longer than he was in the WWE, he himself considers himself a TNA guy anyways. As of right now though I think both have been in TNA long enough and have done enough in TNA to be considered TNA guys. I don't associate Kurt Angle or Bully Ray with the WWE anymore, when I think of them I think of TNA.

Plus we call him Bully Ray, that was given to him when he was in TNA.

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I only called him that bc that's what they call him nowadays. WWE is ultra bigger than TNA as we all know. And those tag team years with the edge/Christian and hardys were like a golden era of tag teams and stipulations. If TNA were WCW maybe you'd be right, but it's TNA.

Hell if I were him, I'd wanna be known by what I did on the greatest stage not some second rate show

Everyone's problem is that they go into watching TNA and they already have the mindset "They dont get as big of ratings as WWE so the product must be inferior." Which isn't true at all. Most people go into TNA with the mindset of being critical of everything and then they become overly critical. In every era of wrestling, there was shitty stuff going on, your wrestling show is never going to be a 100 percent gold. Everyone needs to stop expecting that. TNA actually has a trying attitude, that they are actually attempting to put on a good product. WWE isn't, they know that their fans will tune in no matter what state their product is in, and of course they do tune in. It's like TNA is a nice small Ma and Pa small business and WWE is Wal-Mart.

I couldn't agree more.....Buh Buh Ray is still a WWE guy first and foremost

I couldn't agree more.....Buh Buh Ray is still a WWE guy first and foremost

Gotta disagree on that one sorry! He was a WWE guy, was... He even considers himself a TNA guy.

Well if you work for TNA, your not gonna go around saying your a WWE guy. I mean c'mon

wwe is just run better. look at the rise of wcw. wcw had all the money & took all of the wwe's top guys. wwe had to reinvent themselves. They went from ignoring the fact that shawn michaels even existed to showcasing him as the face of the company. they made val venis seem like a worthy wrestler. they made us interested in Billy Gunn and road dogg. they reinvented themselves when they didn't have 'the names.' Ki en Tai? The 1-2-3 kid? Razon Ramon? (Look at old, old pics of Scott Hall wth the mullet and porn stache) - they remade all those guys.

It took a lot of 'throw shit at the fan to see what sticks' but something eventually did. TNA WAS doing that, then Hulk took over and got rid of everything that made tna 'not' wwe-lite.

just my o, tho.

It took a lot of 'throw shit at the fan to see what sticks' but something eventually did. TNA WAS doing that, then Hulk took over and got rid of everything that made tna 'not' wwe-lite.

That's true. I much preferred TNA before any Hogan involvement.

Hogan isn't even running the show... TNA is trying new things these days and seeing what works. But the network doesn't seem to like to advertise the show. How can a wrestling fan not know that Jeff Hardy is in TNA now? At one point he was the most popular wrestler in the world, seems like marketing and advertising is the problem. Because most people don't even know that the brand exists.

I like the things TNA does like Open Fight Night and Gut Check. Plus "Option C" thing with the X-Division belt is pretty unique and cool. I like the fact that they have scaled back the number of PPVs. I like the Bound For Glory series concept. They improve upon it each year. TNA has taken numerous steps in the right direction. Some thick headed people still think it is the company that Vince Russo was booking when its completely different.

One thing I like that TNA did in the past few weeks is the Magnus thing. They put in in the Main Event Mafia last Thursday. Kurt Angle and Sting put him over majorly, acting as if it was a huge deal that he was in the Mafia. Gave him a huge rub and Magnus has been over with the fans. Magnus chants happen at each show. TNA treats people like Bobby Roode, James Storm, AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, Christopher Daniels, Kaz, and Austin Aries as equals to people like Kurt Angle, Jeff Hardy, and Bully Ray.

TNA also has a better womens division. Which isn't say much. But if you go to the Slammiversary PPV and watch Taryn Terrel vs. Gail Kim, you haven't seen a match that good from women in the WWE in probably close to a decade now! That was a last knockouts standing match and it was awesome. Now this Thursday they are having a Knockouts ladder match. I like that they let the knockouts do different stuff and not the same Tag team one week and then a singles match the next week formula the WWE tends to put out.

Give TNA a chance, they deserve your views more than the other company does. They actually try and care about their fans. WWE doesn't care unless you are under the age of 16. Even then.

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Everyone's problem is that they go into watching TNA and they already have the mindset "They dont get as big of ratings as WWE so the product must be inferior." Which isn't true at all. Most people go into TNA with the mindset of being critical of everything and then they become overly critical. In every era of wrestling, there was shitty stuff going on, your wrestling show is never going to be a 100 percent gold. Everyone needs to stop expecting that. TNA actually has a trying attitude, that they are actually attempting to put on a good product. WWE isn't, they know that their fans will tune in no matter what state their product is in, and of course they do tune in. It's like TNA is a nice small Ma and Pa small business and WWE is Wal-Mart.

I disagree with parts of this.

WWE are trying just as hard if not more than TNA to produce a good show. They brought in big stars from the past (Lesnar, Rock, etc) and they built stars or are building stars the fans like (Punk, Bryan, Ziggler etc). They have a great developmental program. NXT is great some weeks. They are constantly producing good matches with people we like in important storylines, even if we do have to deal with the others who we don't like. You're right, a company will never be 100% gold but at least WWE's partial bit of gold is gold and not gold-plated silver like TNA's.

I hope that metaphor was as good as it sounded in my head ha.

Anyways, the thing about Bully Ray; sure he made himself as a singles guy in TNA, but he was still a Hall of Famer before the first time he stepped into TNA. His legacy is already made. Sure, he can add to it but he will always be a WWE guy.

Tangent time....

Personal preferences are personal preferences; you're not going to dissuade a WWE loyalist from watching their shows and switching over to whatever else there is, and vice versa for TNA. When you dislike a program, or in this instance a WRESTLING program and decide to give it a go-around one week, you're most likely going into it with a preconceived notion that it's going to completely blow goats, therefore you'll pick apart everything, which, obviously will kill any enjoyment that you may have gotten from it.

I've done the same thing when trying to watch Raw; I try not to, but dammit, I can't help it...I just don't like WWE at the moment. Unfortunately, being a far bigger TNA fan I tend to gloss over some of their obvious flaws; I don't want anything to kill the buzz from what I'm watching. I mean, I haven't completely written off WWE yet, as they've proven that, at times, they can do extremely good programming, but there hasn't been enough of it to keep me interested in the last few years, at least not enough things NOT involving a guy by the name of CM Punk anyways

Believe it or not, On July 31st Kurt Angle will have been in TNA for as long as he was in WWE.

I'd say Bully Ray counts as a TNA guy by this point. The Dudleyz I'd call ECW and WWE guys, but he did very little singles work in either promotion and has become a pretty big deal in TNA. I'd consider them different things, but I may be alone in that.

I think what Rhys said about Buh Buh pretty much sums it up.

He's a hall of famer from his WWE run because of Devon. They were a team. They're a hall of fame tag team, like the Valliants or Blackjacks. No way would those guys get into the hall on their own, not even Hawk would, and neither would Bubba. But now he's become a really good main eventer he has a shot at becoming worthy of a spot on his own too. I see the Dudleyz as a WWE act and Bully Ray as a TNA guy.

I get what you're saying but I dunno....alot of the reason why I think he's anything at all in TNA right now is bc of his Hall of Fame stature in the WWE....it's just not the same

I like the TNA originals. Bobby Rude really had a good run last year. AJ always is on target. AA (tho really a ROH guy) is amazing, Daniels is great all the time - not appreciated enough, kaz is good... not super great, but good. MCMGs were surprisingly awesome, not a big fan of cowboy storm, magnus and the rest need to be put over by the guys on the tail end of their career, imo, that's all the guys that used to be with wwe.

I still see the old 'wwe guys' as wwe guys cuz i don;t watch TNA as much as I used to. It reminded me too much of wcw at the end. I hope that;s not the case. Guy's with 'names' come in & run all over the home-made talent... all while wwe is making new stars.

ROH guys never seem to shake that image. Like CM Punk, Samoa Joe, and Austin Aries are all either TNA or WWE guys. But they still are a ROH guy to some extent. Not that it is a bad thing.

I think I like TNA so much because they are the underdog and an alternative.