Making a Murderer

The guys who did the documentary mentioned why they left parts out, as there wasn't enough in it to show that it was relevant and the "evidence" wasn't as strong as the ones given on the show. The guys on the police side also refused to give interviews which is why it seemed one sided.

The whole thing was dodgy from start to finish.

8 days of searching a tiny house - outside cop said that it should have been one, maybe two days max as if you don't find anything by then, you won't find anything. To find stuff after that time points to planting evidence like the keys, found on the 4th day of looking with the cop who did the initial search saying that he looked there and there were no keys. And with the keys, only his DNA was found on them, but she'd had that car for 11 years, so her DNA would be all over them.

The cops of that area shouldn't have even been involved as it was a conflict of interests since he was suing them, yet they constantly made themselves involved in it.

They have no blood of hers to put her there, despite what they were saying. It's all shit just because they'd have gone bankrupt if they had to pay him $18m for falsely imprisoning him in the first place.

7 of the 10 or 11 jurors said that he was not guilty, then suddenly changed that to guilty with no other evidence given. The majority changed their minds over night.

Did the cops do it? Who knows. But there's so much pointing to the fact that he was framed that you can't leave the police blame free. They clearly wanted him to go down as they couldn't pay the money to him. Could have been convenient timing that someone killed her and the police just took their opportunity. Sad thing is that if it was someone else, they've totally gotten away with it thanks to the police wanting to put someone else away.

I don't know..  I think he did it, but the real shitty police work leaves doubt. I think it just shows how flawed something can be with the police in this country.

Oh, and beside everything else, what the police did with his nephew was disgusting. He's clearly retarded, everyone in it commented on his low IQ. They were telling him what to say. He even admitted to guessing. Nothing of what he came out with could have been true anyway as there was no evidence to it - slicing her throat, etc - would have been blood everywhere and there's no way he could have cleaned it all up with the state of the place. And when he gave the written statement and the guy kept telling him to stop lying because he didn't mention anything to do with the murder so he told him what to write. Absolutely disgusting on it's own. Screw the rest of the case, they guys involved in that should be done just for what they did with this kid who was too stupid to know anything.

I don't know..  I think he did it, but the real shitty police work leaves doubt. I think it just shows how flawed something can be with the police in this country.

That's the problem though. If they'd done the job properly, no one would be questioning them at all. They fucked the whole thing up themselves and pushed it through. Totally wrong how they did it. They blatantly planted evidence. They should have been able to prove it without doing that, as it's stuff like that that makes people doubt it and now I doubt a lot of people will trust them.

Why did Avery request for that girl who was murdered specifically to come see the van? Why did he call her multiple times? He was the last one who she was around. Just to many unanswered questions we probably wont ever find out.

Also did you get a this weird feeling of your time being wasted after watching it? I'm a few hours away from the place this all took place. I live in a smaller town, doesn't surprise me that the police force there wasn't used to and completely not qualified to handle this type of thing.

I don't think there was enough evidence to convict Steven Avery for this crime & there was certainly not enough to convict Brendan Dassey. Heads should roll for the way he has been treated. There is no evidence against him for what he supposedly did.

It was infuriating to watch utter moronic cops try and convict a mentally challenged boy. Why did he confess, maybe it was because the two bully boy cops forced him to, when he should have had a lawyer or even his mother present. Maybe its because they kept telling him he was lying over 75 times until he basically said what they wanted to hear. His original defense lawyer was a fucking rat trying to screw Brendan over so it would help the prosecution in Steven's case. Getting his investigator mate alone in the room with him telling him to write down what happened. When this didn't satisfy him, he told Brendan he was lying and do it again. Made him draw pictures of how Theresa Halbach was tied to the bed, him having sex with her (what the fuck), where they put the body on the fire. Then they used that as evidence against him when they had made a pact to throw it out of court because the lawyer was practising immorally.

Brendan had no idea about shooting her in the head when the cops kept asking him about what happened to hear head. He kept guessing, we cut her hair, we cut her throat, we punched her.... He had no idea until the cop blurted out why did you shoot her. Err probably because he didn't.

It was never explained why Theresa's blood was in the back of the Rav 4 even though her body wasn't put in the back of it. Sgt Andy Colborn (docile, fucking moron) who called in the number plates of the Rav 4, 2 days before it was discovered on the Avery's property. Why would you do this unless you were looking at it? He gave no answer for it in court. The two women who found the Rav 4 in 25 minutes on a 40 acre site, coincidental. Why didn't Steven just burn the car and then put it in the crusher so it couldn't be identified?!?

And that fucking fat, pig faced, squeaky voiced cunt of a man, Ken Kratz is absolute shit-stain of the finest order. Sexting a domestic abuse victim who he's supposed to be representing, taking a woman on a date to an autopsy. He stands there in court talking about Steven Avery being a sexual predator, hold up a mirror and that's you son. And the fact all this shit comes out and he doesn't even lose his job over it. Until more & more women come out they had to cut him loose, & then he says he has a prescription pill addiction & is a sex addict. It boils my piss that he somehow managed to keep his license to practise law.

I wonder if there are other leads in other places on the girl who was killed that they are ignoring? My thing is even if Avery did kill the girl, the police did such a sloppy and unprofessional job handling it, and based on all of it the dude should get let off really.

Over here its basically you're innocent until we have enough evidence to prove you're guilty. Over there its like, we think you're guilty prove to us you're not.

There were lots of other suspects in the case but as the police went after Steven it would be difficult to find DNA evidence perpetuating from 10 years ago.

It was never explained why her ex-boyfriend was deleting voicemail messages off her phone once he cracked the password.

Steven's brothers who were also on the site with access to weapons, had criminal pasts involving women but were never questioned. One of them hid upstairs when they came to take a DNA sample.

Bobby Dassey & Scott Tadych only alibi's were each other. The .22 rifle that shot Theresa, Scott Tadych tried to sell one to a co-worker and said it belonged to one of the Dassey boys. Bobby Dassey had recent scratches on his back but said they came from a puppy. Bobby Dassey said in court that Scott Tadych would verify the time they saw each other but never explained why this was important. Why would Scott be looking at his trucks clock when they passed each other?! The timeline they provided also proved to be false as the bus driver said she stopped on Avery Road at 3:40pm, which was an hour after Bobby Dassey said he saw Theresa in Steven's yard. Also Bobby took a shower before going hunting. Why would you do this? An animal would now be able to smell your scent....

Steven Avery's new lawyer https://twitter.com/ZellnerLaw thinks she's hit paydirt, They've got phone tower records that Theresa Halbach left the compound but Steven Avery didn't. An appeal has been filed, so they will have to see where this goes.