Mancini fired? / City new manager

If they do sack him then they're just as bad as Chelsea at sacking. Coming second is okay. Ferguson didn't win the title every season, or even win anything in some seasons, but United stayed with him and built something. I don't get why Chelsea and City owners can't see how United have been run and how successful they've been because of it. They'd be stupid to sack Mancini.

If they do sack him then they're just as bad as Chelsea at sacking. Coming second is okay. Ferguson didn't win the title every season, or even win anything in some seasons, but United stayed with him and built something. I don't get why Chelsea and City owners can't see how United have been run and how successful they've been because of it. They'd be stupid to sack Mancini.

TBH if I was Roman Abramovich and I spent over a billion on a team and I didn't get results every season then it's get the fuck out of here. And you can't really say getting rid of managers is hurting Chelsea because they win a trophy every season. So the moral is for teams like City and Chelsea the owners are more important that the Managers.

Chelsea haven't looked like winning g the league in a while. They've been way of the pace this season and last (can't remember before that tbh). They have barely any youth players coming through as instant success is required, so managers just sign players that will make an instant impact as they don't have time to work with the youth players. All down to constantly changing managers.

Wigan just put the final nail in Mancini coffin I think

Wigan just put the final nail in Mancini coffin I think

Was just gonna post this.

Also Martinez to Everton looks more likely.

If he is fired, it's ridiculous. Boards are too willy-nilly about sacking managers. Look how many managers Chelsea have gone through in the last few years? Mancini has done a fantastic job at Manchester City. I wish that more faith was put into managers even if they do have a less-than-perfect season. Mancini still got City into the final of the FA Cup as well as a 2nd place Premier League Spot.

It's official now, he's gone. Stupid decision if you ask me.

"Roberto's record speaks for itself, he secured the love and respect of fans.
"He has done as he promised and delivered silverware and success."

The board then went on to add that he "had failed to achieve any of the club's stated targets this year, with the exception of qualification for next season's Champions League".

Finishing second and getting to a cup final just isn't good enough for some people. I remember when United finished 3rd 2 years in a row after winning the title. And before that they finished 3rd after winning the title 3 times. Can you imagine if they'd sacked Ferguson?

To me this is the same thing. Nothing wrong with coming second in the table to the greatest manager going.

When Fergie took over at United it took him three years to win anything, right? He should be the measuring stick for great managers.

This is insane.

Ugh, you people need to stop comparing teams like Chelsea and City to United. United haven't spent half a billion in a few years on players and investments, United are probably the richest club in the world in terms of revenue, United can demand a lot of money from sponsorships. The owners of these 2 clubs need continued success every season with Champions League exposure being one of the biggest way for this, and him dropping out in the group stages for the second year in a row is one of the main things that got him sacked I reckon. And stop saying 'Fergie had three years to win blah blah' this isn't the 80s.

Saying that, I see a lot of this because of the new footballing directors or whatever their role is. Thos 2 guys from Barca, it looks like they're trying to copying that format with the playing style and investing in a new world class youth system. Mancini's Italian which the Spaniards look down upon when it comes to football, the writing been on the wall for some time.

Ok, how about Everton? Moyes was around for 11 years without winning anything.

I'm guessing this is more about losing respect from the players than not winning trophies. The official statement was that he failed to meet targets, but the players didn't seem to care a whole lot this year and the brawl with Balotelli was likely part of a bigger problem.

Ok, how about Everton? Moyes was around for 11 years without winning anything.

And?

I think people are missing my point: the owners have set very high standards because they've invested a ridiculous amount of money, managers can't be treated like they are in other clubs because Man City and Chelsea are abnormalities.

Ok, how about Everton? Moyes was around for 11 years without winning anything.

And?

I think people are missing my point: the owners have set very high standards because they've invested a ridiculous amount of money, managers can't be treated like they are in other clubs because Man City and Chelsea are abnormalities.

And United still wanted him. They should have the highest standards of anyone, given the manager they just lost, so why the guy who doesn't even have experience of European football?

The point is there are fewer trophies than good managers, so some will end up with nothing every year. Like Wenger. I'm guessing this is about more than just that, but if the excuse is that Mancini didn't win the league or FA cups I think the decision is incredibly short-sighted. Chelsea's revolving door hasn't gotten them any closer to winning the league, and the guy who won the Champions League for them was fired anyway. Some standards are just too high.

I think we do need to compare them to United though, and every other team in the League. United clearly know how to keep a great manager. How to show him some loyalty, even when he isn't doing the best he can, and have faith he will get the job done. The problem is these idiots who take over clubs and inject millions haven't got the patience to let a manager do his job. No matter how good a manager is, he isn't going to win every trophy every year like some of these people expect. Ferguson had several dry patches throughout his career and some less-than-ideal finishing league positions (like the aforementioned 3rd-two-years-in-a-row) and he's still considered one of (if not the) best managers ever.

If the people injecting millions into these clubs stuck to a manager and showed a little bit of faith, they'd have the success they want. Mancini has won cups and City's first ever Premier League Title - that's incredible when you think about it. In 2005/2006 they finished 15th (!) in the League and look what Mancini did for them by winning them the League. They are now considered one of the biggest English clubs whereas less than a decade ago they were just average. If they are looking for a manager to win the treble every season, keep dreaming, it isn't going to happen. Like chux said, some expectations are just too high. I think Mancini did a great job and the decision to sack him is one of the stupidest decisions in years.